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Thanks Mr. Poon.

I am totally delighted with the monoblock deluxe 100’s. By the way that high res disc you gave me is a jaw dropper on my Quad 63 electrostatics with these amps. Switched interconnects to Harmonic Technology True Copper and placed amps at speakers, connected to them with very short lengths of that yellow Teflon cable you gave me. Works wonderfully. Have recommended your equipment to several audiophiles.

Best regards,
Joel


My rigg is emotiva xda-1 dac (I'm using it as an preamp) the se-100 mk2 delux monos and a pair of dali ikon8 (mk1) speakers, I'm using vandenhul magnum speaker cables and vandenhul the name signal cables, i have 3 sources, the most used one is spotify via ipad-airportxpress to the dac using noname optical cable, the second most used source is a Project rpm-1 with ortofon 2m red pickup via project tubebox se 2 via littledot mk2 instead of the xda-1 and the third source is a nad c525bee cd player via xda-1 with noname coax cable.

At first I was a bit surprised by the size of the monos, I thought they were bigger, my other amp is a vincent sv-238mk and its pretty huge compared to the two se-100's. I think the size of the amps gave me a little placebo effect in the first hours of listening, i was afraid they did not have enough power, after about one week of listening (40 hours) they proved that I was wrong.
For the first time in my life i could agree that size doesent mather, at all. I'm mostly listening to metall and stoner rock, my favorite bands are gojira, the agonist, clutch, lamb of god and dream theater.


To make heavy metall sound great the amps have to reproduse a lot of details, the se-100's did this so wery well, they revealed details I havent heard before. The bass is mighty strong, giving my speakers al little extra punch, it feels like my speakers are playing a little deeper then they did before to. The most interesting thing with the amps was that the tweeters got a litle more laydback, my speakers are a little sharp in the top, the se-100's "cured" this. There were not eny greater differences in the mids.

Overall the Monarchy SE-100MK2 Delux sounds detailed and is very comfortable sounding amplifiers. Comparing them to Vincent Sv-238mk might be misleading because of the difference in build and the fact that sv-238mk is a integrated 2ch amp and the pre inbuilt might sound different then the xda and the littledot pre's.

Best regards,
Stian S.


Dear Mr. Poon:

I recently acquired two SE 100 delux Mk II, to replace my 21 year old Bryston 3B. First, I just wanted to say I like the sound and they are a great value, thanks!

I am using them with Vandersteen 2CE Sig speakers.

My digital front end is the Slimdevices/logitech Transporter...I just use the analog output of that unit straight into your amps. With the Bryston the sound has always been a little harsh; it is a little more mellow with your amps. It is better now that I discovered a firmware setting for a rolloff filter on the DAC, I set it to be slower.

However, I think I can do better and I am very intrigued about the NM24, and feeding it the digital signal from my Transporter. I really like the idea of exploring the tube sound as well, which I have never done.

I am just skeptical about the age of the NM24? Does it still use the same DAC as it did when you released it? If so, are you thinking of refreshing this line soon? I found over the past two decades that every 4-5 year or so, at a similar price point, digital components are just much better in sound quality.

Do you have these in stock? I live near San Francisco and would want to pickup if I decide to make a purchase.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Fred Livingston

Thanks Mr. Poon.


I am totally delighted with the monoblock deluxe 100’s. By the way that high res disc you gave me is a jaw dropper on my Quad 63 electrostatics with these amps. Switched interconnects to Harmonic Technology True Copper and placed amps at speakers, connected to them with very short lengths of that yellow Teflon cable you gave me. Works wonderfully. Have recommended your equipment to several audiophiles.

Best regards,
Joel


Re: A Customer's feedback on the SE100 Delux Mark
« Reply #2 on Apr 21, 2013, 1:15pm » 

Hello fellow audio freaks! I've just taken delivery of a pair of se100's to replace my sm70's and they are absolutely fantastic .Much cleaner sounding than the70's with deeper bass . Fed from a musical fidelity A308 pre amp into monitor audio GX300 speakers no other amp I have heard can get near these little gems for sheer sound quality. just on a side note I took the sm70's round to a friends to try them in his system. replacing his Quad valve amps with my monarchy's was quite interesting. I think the American term is ;the Quads got their asses handed to them!; .se100's are the audio bargain of the century!

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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:50:44 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: SE-100 MKII GLORIOUS!

C.C.,
The amps sound fabulous. In just several days they have opened up to reveal astonishing performance. Going to run them for another day or two and assuming everything works as we expect I'll send a check on Wednesday morning. A bit surprising how noisy the XLR input is compared to the RCA input. Didn't expect that. Additionally, at first, the soundstage was so small compared to the BAT VK-60 monoblocks (120 watts, Class A) which the 100's replaced. But this morning the soundstage began to bloom and I sat transfixed at the sound. I was actually laughing at these diminutive upstarts. To be honest, C.C., I didn't really want to like these amps. I really wanted the Pass Labs XA100.5 monoblocks. But in comparing these amps against the Pass Labs Aleph 2's which I've been using since getting these amps, they are so good I just can't rationalize spending more $$ for the Pass products. And I wanted to. That means, again, I'm bowing to your genius and I don't use that word but rarely. But when a $1,000 product so challenges a $5,000 product and, in some instances, actually seems to out-perform the product, well, .... And to top it off, you're about the kindest and most patient proprietor of high-end products I've ever dealt with. And I've been in this hobby for 40 years and count several high end vendors as clients. It's always the same with you. My wife adores you and pushed me hard to be honest about these products. It takes courage to admit to people that, yes, I'm using the Monarchy Audio hardware (because, you know, it can't be serious high-end given its price).But then when you inquire of the doubter about when they last listened to the SM-100 MK.II, turns out they haven't listened. Strangely, they still have an opinion. They just "know" that at the asking price, well, it can't be competitive with the higher priced gear. Whatever. I know what I hear and I like it, a lot. Feel free to put this commentary in the user comments section should you so desire. As ever, Rob Cherry
PS - Just purchased a PS Audio Premier AC regenerator for these units. It can output up to 1500 watts so we should be OK.

My rigg is emotiva xda-1 dac (I'm using it as an preamp) the se-100 mk2 delux monos and a pair of dali ikon8 (mk1) speakers, I'm using vandenhul magnum speaker cables and vandenhul the name signal cables, i have 3 sources, the most used one is spotify via ipad-airportxpress to the dac using noname optical cable, the second most used source is a Project rpm-1 with ortofon 2m red pickup via project tubebox se 2 via littledot mk2 instead of the xda-1 and the third source is a nad c525bee cd player via xda-1 with noname coax cable.

At first I was a bit surprised by the size of the monos, I thought they were bigger, my other amp is a vincent sv-238mk and its pretty huge compared to the two se-100's.
I think the size of the amps gave me a little placebo effect in the first hours of listening, i was afraid they did not have enough power, after about one week of listening (40 hours) they proved that I was wrong.
For the first time in my life i could agree that size doesent mather, at all.
I'm mostly listening to metall and stoner rock, my favorite bands are gojira, the agonist, clutch, lamb of god and dream theater.
To make heavy metall sound great the amps have to reproduse a lot of details, the se-100's did this so wery well, they revealed details I havent heard before.
The bass is mighty strong, giving my speakers al little extra punch, it feels like my speakers are playing a little deeper then they did before to.
The most interesting thing with the amps was that the tweeters got a litle more laydback, my speakers are a little sharp in the top, the se-100's "cured" this.
There were not eny greater differences in the mids.
Overall the Monarchy SE-100MK2 Delux sounds detailed and is very comfortable sounding amplifiers.
Comparing them to Vincent Sv-238mk might be misleading because of the difference in build and the fact that sv-238mk is a integrated 2ch amp and the pre inbuilt might sound different then the xda and the littledot pre's.

Best regards,
Stian S.

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Re: A Customer's feedback on the SE100 Delux Mark
« Reply #2 on Apr 21, 2013, 1:15pm » 

Hello fellow audio freaks! I've just taken delivery of a pair of se100's to replace my sm70's and they are absolutely fantastic .Much cleaner sounding than the70's with deeper bass . Fed from a musical fidelity A308 pre amp into monitor audio GX300 speakers no other amp I have heard can get near these little gems for sheer sound quality. just on a side note I took the sm70's round to a friends to try them in his system. replacing his Quad valve amps with my monarchy's was quite interesting. I think the American term is ;the Quads got their asses handed to them!; .se100's are the audio bargain of the century!Read more at the Monarchy Audio Forum.



Subject: SE 100 deluxe Mk II

Hi Mr Poon,

I purchased a pair of your demos months ago and was very pleased with theirSE 100 performance. I knew what to expect as I owned 3 SM 70s to great effect... But I thought you d be interested as to their performance in a real world "difficult" load environment.

The attached pictures show my current speaker set up: stacked pairs of Yamaha NS 1000 M s with high frequency augmentation provided by Townshend Maximum SuperTweeters. Each side(all 3 speakers) is driven by one of the SE 100 s. I haven't measured the actual impedance at the terminals but I'm guessing it's somewhere south of 3 ohms best case and close to a short on a transient basis.
There is no sonic evidence whatsoever of any electrical distress. As you know the Yamaha's are known to be a difficult upstream match. Their beryllium mid and treble drivers are exquisitely revealing. The SE 100 s are a match made in heaven.

Sources .Vinyl: Linn LP12 with OriginLive Signature DC motor/PSU mod, Ekos arm,ClearAudio cart, Furukama phono leads driving a Pathos "In the Groove"II phono preamp. The Pathos' balanced output drives a passive transformer volume control which through 12 ft of Stealth M 7 Signature balanced interconnect drives the SE 100's.
Digital: Pioneer Elite D 9 SACD/CD player serves as a transport, with RCA s/pdif output to an Perpetual Technology upsampler (with Monolith PSU) which in turn drives an Arcam r/DAC (with a custom regulated PSU)which drives the PVC via a pair of Van den Hul Carbon Fibre interconnects.

Altho' vinyl rules esp with orchestral music and jazz the digital is very satisfying for coarser musical pleasures ...Captain Beefheart anyone ?

These little amps, Mr Poon, are magical and at the price, miraculous.

Thank you.
Andy.


Hello Mr Poon,

Finally I have spared enough time for critical comparison of my newly purchased SE-100 Deluxe Mark 2 monoblocks.

I put them into my system which includes OPPO-83 NF Edition and Quad tube amplification - Quad 24 as a pre and Quad Classic power monoblocks. Loudspeakers are JBL LS40. For wires I use entry level Transparent cables and for power conditioning cheap Monster Power device.

So it was not an easy challenge ahead of SE-100 amplifiers to force me to any changes. I left them on for a couple of days with constantly playing music for the last three hours before my critical listening session. I used The Absolute Sound 2009 compilation CD as a test material.

Tack3 : Dedicated to ... by Allan Taylor : Many thanks to Stockfisch Records at the first place for their recording skill. Bass line is clear, deep and powerfull even with low power tube amplifier. But it is the with SE-100 which unveils its full beauty - never heard bass like this - SO clear ... Probably because of SE-100 excellent damping factor.

Track 4 : Loveless Cafe by Siri Gjaere : fantastic opening with vibrating acoustic guitar full with ambience. Defeneitly SE-100 shows more depth than Quad Classic and again so clear bass melodic line.

Track 11: Shanagolden by Liz Madden : Beautiful female voice sounds soft and charming. Soft and sweat sound is what one could naturally expect from tube amp and Quad does deliver it but surprisingly SE-100 wins over even in this category.

Track 12: Chopin Nocturne Op9 N2 by Gergely Boganyi : and finally solo piano piece. Peaceful sound of piano notes with unbelievable amount of details in harmonics so that it is practically visible how strings vibrate inside this grand instroument. And again with SE-100 I could "see" more details of this vibrations than with Quad.

Well, it's time for Quad Classic to get retired, and just one issue with SE-100 - I've got them in black and Quad tube preamp (which is still a great gear and I also have matching phonostage) is light yellow-silver. So maybe I will start DIY project repainting either SE-100 or Quad .... or simply buy a good black preamp from Mr. Poon - no doubts now it could also win over Quad tube preamp!

thanks

leo


Subject: Re: SE 100 Deluxe Mk IIs user comment

To: CCPOON

For those who have asked Mr. Poon about driving Magneplanar speakers with the SE 100 Deluxe Mk IIs, I am driving MG 3.7s with the beefed up MK IIs (200w @ 4 ohms) and it is a match made in heaven. I have been going to CES and the SHOW for years and I have not heard anything that is better. Not even the $100,000 speaker and amp combinations. Of course a good tube preamp helps.

I give the Monarchy SE 100 Deluxe Mk II s my highest recommendation.

R. Haysley


Communication with another user:

Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 10:58 AM

Subject: Re: 3.7's

Charles,

Obviously the 3.7s can handle enormous amounds of power but they are more efficient than their predicessor. I know the spec's only indicate a 1db increase but having had Maggies since the 2167s ( the 1st Maggies) , 200w in to 4 ohms is sufficient to get quite loud in my room. I have a pair of Wyred4Sound SA 1000 monos (1000w into4 ohms) and compared to the SE100s the sound stage completely collapsed, both depth and width. I have been going the CES for about 30 years and I have never heard anything the significantly better. And I am talking about the Magico's, Wilson Audio, and the like. Last thing, I am using the heavy duty version with 200w at 4 ohms not the standard 160w into 4ohm version. I would love tho match them with Pass monosbut we are talking about a $12,000 difference. My advice is get a pair and see if you like the combination if you don't CC will happily refund your money.

I have other audiophile friends who also go to CES, Rocky Mountain Audio Fair, the SHOW etc. and they walk out of my place shaking their heads and smiling in agreement. I hope this helps.

Rob

PS. CC also make higher powered hybrid amps up to 500w at 4 ohms


To: CCPOON

Subject: Regarding second pair of SE-100 Mark 2

Hello Mr Poon,

I just thought I would share something with you. Last night a friend brought over two "Class D" mono amplifiers that he had purchased several months ago. He was adamant that it would not only beat the SE-100 Mark 2 but would completely change my mind as to amplifier design.

I can tell you the first two letters on the two words on these two class D amplifiers was "B, C". I am sure you can figure it out by that.

We set up these two 250 watt class D amplifiers, making sure that the gain was set the same on both of them and proceeded to listen to quite a variety of music.

Well, my friend was proven wrong by your amplifiers. In oh so many ways. The SE-100 Mark 2 would not go up as loud. (To be expected as it was only 100 watts versus 250) But in EVERY other way it trounced the Class D amplifier. It completely shattered my friends preconceptions of amplifier technology. In comparison the two class D mono blocks sound stage shrunk by at least four feet. Every time we switched to the SE-100 amplifiers it was as though a curtain was lifted and the performance flung itself out from the speakers!

Not only did the SE-100's image better, they were more robust and flat in the bottom end. The class D in comparison sounded boomy in the bottom end, almost as if they added something that was not there originally. The vocals on the SE-100's were better, hands down.

Singers voices floated out of the speakers and grabbed your attention. When switching back to the class D amplifiers in comparison they sounded sterile, devoid of emotion. The imaging and sound quality through the SE-100's was so much better it was astonishing.

My friend left very dejected, but resigned to the fact that your amplifiers were sonically much superior to class D in every way. I fully expect him to contact you in the next few months to purchase a couple of your amplifiers. As soon as I get my preamp in I will make a decision on another two of your amps.

I have to go to Toronto early next week for meetings as I have had offers from several Corporations.

When I get back I will get in touch with you.

You have an amazing product, please feel free to use this email and distribute as you see fit!

Warmest Regards,

James Urdiga.



Hi CC,

Just wanted to say that I received the SE-100's in perfect condition and have been listening to them via the POCC cables over the holidays. They are excellent, well done! They drive my Hawthorne Silver Iris open baffles to perfection across the full frequency range providing a full bodied, natural, clear sound.

My set up is - Apple TV (WAV Audio)/Onix XCD88 - DIP Classic - MHDT Constantine - MF X-10 v3 - Promitheus TVC -?SE-100 Delux Mk2 - Hawthorne Silver Iris in Open Baffle with AV123 ERT + Triangle Meteor Sub (connected to TVC).

I initially had some hum coming through the speakers but after moving the blocks away from other transformers and plugging them into my G&W filter managed to reduce this to being barely discernable when my ear is placed close to driver (but my OB's are 96dB/W/M) and non existant from the listening position.

Greg


Sir

I’ve finally got my power amps in full working order. The earthing problems have been fixed. I can’t remember how I was using these power amps when I had my ONKO surround receiver but I do remember thinking these are ‘nice’ amplifiers and I was relatively happy. Since then I have upgraded to a Sherwood P965 (preamp/processor) and the matching amplifier A965 (7 channel power amplifier – 100 watts at 8 ohms all channels driven). So I have bi-amped my VAF DCX speakers (an aussie brand) with A965 on bass duties and the SE100 on mid+high duties.

Initially, I just grabbed the first CD that came to hand, basically to test the amps and the setup, which happened to be the “Best of the Band”. I can only say wow and WOW and WOOWWW……was this sound really coming from my speakers and my system? I didn’t realize so much information was on a CD. Immediately I started playing more music and it was the same, unbelievable. One of the items I always complain about my system is that the sound of a cymbal doesn’t decay like the real thing or even close to it (as the sound decays a shimmering occurs)…..well it does now. These amps are f***ing unbelievable. They are delicate and strong, I can hear the nuances of the human voice, the guitarist hitting his strings unevenly or making slight mistakes, hearing 3 voices harmonising instead of 3 voices making 1 sound. I cannot heap enough superlatives on these amplifiers and its only taken me about 5 years to discover how special these amplifiers are…..It’s like my whole CD collection has been renewed.

The above is the absolute truth and I cannot emphasize enough how good these Monarchy Audio SE100 deluxe monoblock are. Unfortunately, the rest of my system was not up to there level, until now that is. Thank you CC Poon for designing and selling such a fantastic product at a realistic price.

I am starting to wonder now how good are some of your other products (in particular the SE250 and M-24…..Could you please give me a price for SE250 – Aussie version)

Regards

Paul Velkou
Infrastructure Analyst
Transaction Processing
E ITO Sydney SDC
Level 2, 36 - 46 George Street
Burwood, NSW Australia 2134



Mr Poon,
The Amps work wonderful... I have about 25 hours on them... I have
been told that they really open up after 40 hours... I can't wait!

I just purchased a second hand Cary SLP 98 pre amp and they seem to
pair really well together...

Thanks,
-Anu


Hello C.C.,

I had my first listen to the SE-100MK2 this weekend. Those are very sweet sounding amps... very tube like! They sound very good hooked up to my Parasound Class-A discreet solid-state line preamp. I would say the amps sound similar to my VTL ST-85 tube amp but perhaps a little better. It looks like I will enjoy doing this review.

Can you tell me, are these amps the modified versions or are they the basic stock units?

Thank You,

Frank Alles
www.stereotimes.com



Hello to the dear peoples in Monarchy.

My order has arrived en time. Your amplifier 100 delux MK2 after 3 days of non stop operation is way way beyond what I was expecting. I have tested mega thousand dollars amps and I don't hear anything that would contradict my feeling and finding.

Thank you for putting research were it count and if someone is turn of by your reasonable price, they can look at magazine and dream of there next toys in the jewelery department .

CCPOON you have served the music and all the music lover .

Thank you.Gerard.



Hi Mr Poon,

The amps arrived in great shape, and sound great! The additional low-level detail really lets me hear into the recording, and I like not having the previous thumps when I turn the amps on.

However, I need to know what size/type fuse is used internally (under the top plate) - I accidentally blew a fuse. They aren't the 8-amp fuses that used to be there. I also left a message on your voice mail asking the same question.

Thanks for your reply.

Mike Fox


Mr. Poon,

I spent some time listening last night. I was very pleased with what I heard. Holographic. Soundstage width and depth is incredible. 3D imaging spot on. Center image so focused you could touch it. Very detailed while still warmish. They did not get too warm, though this was with relatively efficient speakers. Still need to try them with the Maggies. Overall, I could not believe how good they sound being so small and standing beside the Pass X250 that looks huge in comparison.

There is still mechanical hum though; I am going to try a humbuster from PS Audio; I had a Belles amp with a toroidal hum problem and the humbuster completely eliminated it. Maybe I have too much DC in my outlets...

I will let you know how that goes.

Ricardo.


Hi CC, June,
Just wanted to say that I received the SE-100's in perfect condition and have been listening to them via the POCC cables over the holidays. They are excellent, well done! They drive my Hawthorne Silver Iris open baffles to perfection across the full frequency range providing a full bodied, natural, clear sound.

My set up is - Apple TV (WAV Audio)/Onix XCD88 - DIP Classic - MHDT Constantine - MF X-10 v3 - Promitheus TVC -?SE-100 Delux Mk2 - Hawthorne Silver Iris in Open Baffle with AV123 ERT + Triangle Meteor Sub (connected to TVC).

I initially had some hum coming through the speakers but after moving the blocks away from other transformers and plugging them into my G&W filter managed to reduce this to being barely discernable when my ear is placed close to driver (but my OB's are 96dB/W/M) and non existant from the listening position.

Wishing you a very happy 2010

Greg


Hi C.C.;
I am very happy with my Monarchy 24 and SE 100 Mk 2s. I added a psb hd-8 sub woofer to the soliloquys that we modified. My set-up never sounded better. I like the sound better than when I was using the Monarchy SM Pro 70s.
Any up-date on when your new dip will be available?

Regards to June,
Best,
Jack


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