From: "Ping-Cheng Yeh"
<pcyeh@comcast.net>
Subject: M22C vs.
Ack! dAck!
Date: Mon, 19 Jul
2004 16:12:23 -0400
Dear Mr. Poon,
I was deciding to
upgrade my DAC (ART DIO). Finally I
decided to buy an
used M22C for $500. My friend at the
same time decided to
buy one of the most praised DAC
currently on Audio
Asylum, Ack! dAck!, for $525 new.
Last week we had a
chance to compare them side by side.
I was really shocked
by the result. I think M22C is better in
all aspects. Ack!
dAck! simply does not have the high frequencies
and the bass of
M22C. Moreover, it sounds veiled, not as
transparent as M22C.
M22C sounds richer, and there are
more harmonics with
M22C. With M22C, the violin which
sounds thin on Ack!
dAck! is no longer thin at all, it sounds
rich and enjoyable.
As much as Ack! dAck! is highly praised
on the forum, to me
M22C is truly the winner. I am really
glad that I made a
great purchasement. Just want to let you
know that I really
like your M22C DAC. Two thumbs up!!
Best regards,
P.C. Yeh
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:50:59 -0700
From: Tom Miller
<InjunOHC@astound.net>
Mr Poon:
I've had a few days to live with
the model 33.
Your modification and shipping was impressively quick. My only
annoyance
was the alignment of the thick aluminum front panel and the volume
knob.
The knob dragged at high volume settings. I played with it for a few
minutes
and it's now happy. And no, I'm not dangerous with mechanical stuff - I
work on one of a kind multi-million dollar reseach equipment for a
living,
so I treated it nicely.
First off, I plugged it in instead
of my Levinson
38s and internal decoder on my Sony SCD-1.
Wow. VERY nice. Smooooth
with great soundstage.
I then plugged the DAC outputs into my 38s. Not quite what I expected.
Perhaps I'm imagining it, but I think your line amp blows away the 38s.
The 38s does everything but
make pop-up
toast, but seems cold and uninvolving in comparison. As a result, the
38s
is going up for sale. Hey, at least I didn't buy it new.
I'll be able to run the SACD
output from
the SCD-1 and the surround processor into the auxilliary inputs of the
model 33. I just need to set the 33 for unity gain for the surround
processor.
However, I need to check the maximum output voltage on the processor to
make sure I don't overload the input stage of the 33. What is the
maximum
input voltage on the 33? I can always cut the front channel output a
bit
from the processor and make up for that with the line amp in the 33.
The line amp is now set for 20dB
gain, and that
works well with the SE-160s.
I'm still diddling around and
sorting things out,
but am very happy thus far.
Thanks for some great products and
service.
Tom
From: RONNYBOYCUDA@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 04:43:34
EST
Dear Mr. Poon,
I received the SE-100 Delux and
22C a couple
of weeks ago and I just wanted to thank you and your staff for handling
my order in a timely and professional fashion. I have the system
up and running and have allowed for some "run in" time. The only
way for me to describe the sound of the SE-100 Delux and 22C combo is
"REMARKABLE"!!
My only complaint is that I am trying to find the time to "rediscover"
my CD collection........they are that good! I am also surprised
at
how cool they run; they do get warm to the touch, but not as hot as I
thought
they would being single ended Class A. I guess the substantial heat
sinks
really do the job. I have Athena Technologies AF-S2 speakers and
the combination is wonderful. The Athena's simply came to life after
the
amps were connected! I could go on and on about the sound of
these
amps but I believe I would not be adding anything new to all the
wonderful
reviews previously written about these products. Thank you again...I
plan
to enjoy the sound for a long time to come!!
Ronald A. Grosso
(ronnyboycuda @aol.com)
From: TTOTPT@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:32:45 EST
Subject: 22C and SM70
To: monarchy@earthlink.net
Mr C.C. Poon,
I really like your products 22C
and SM70 mono's.
They have really exceeded my
expectations.
Does the 33 have the same volume
increments as
the 22C?
I like how smooth it is and the
number of steps.
I have had over 20 preamps and the
22C is killer.
This is also the best DAC I have
used.
Thanks for your support
Tim
From: "Luc Benac [CTF Systems 2001
Inc.]" <lbenac@ctf.com>
To: "Microwise"
<microwisesystems@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:12:10 -0800
Dear Ming,
I have received the SM70 and DAC33
and enjoy them
very much. I found the
combination outstanding for the price
paid.
I intend to purchase another SM70
when I am back
after new year, could you
let me know by -mail of any offers or
sale discount
on the SM70 in January.
Thank you.
Regards,
Luc.
Luc Benac
Director of Finance
CTF Systems 2001 Inc.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________
From: TTOTPT@aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:32:45 EST
Subject: 22C
To: monarchy@earthlink.net
Mr C.C. Poon,
I really like your products 22C and SM70 mono's.
They have really
exceeded my expectations.
Does the 33 have the same volume increments as the 22C?
I like how smooth it is and the number of steps. I have
had over 20 preamps and the 22C is killer.
This is also the best DAC I have used. Thanks for your support
Tim
________________________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Model 33
Dear Mr. Poon:
Just wanted to write to tell you how pleased I am with SM70 pro's,
24/96 Dip
and Model 33 combination DAC/preamp. The first SM70 Pro was doing quite
well
all by itself in combination with the 24/96 dip and the model 33
Dac/Preamp.
I was impressed with how easy it was to listen to CD's which now
sounded
smooth, and more natural instead of the compressed highs and tinny
sound that
has bothered me about this format from the beginning. Then when I
received
the second SM 70 Pro and the balanced connectors the improvement
was
incremental again. The transparency of the inner voices, airiness of
the
upper strings became even more pronounced. Most importantly for me
as a
professional musician I did not get "ear fatigue." I auditioned
many
components during my search for equipment but nothing was as pleasing
to my
ear, (and I might add the ear of friends) including equipment that
cost 3 and
4 times as much and which was supposed to be more "powerful." My thanks
for
your patient answers to my many questions and for the prompt and well
packed
way the equipment was shipped to me.
Regards,
Brad Buckley
Bassoonist, Contrabassoonist the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mark and Lorie Sloan"
<sloanml@email.msn.com>
To: "C.C.POON" <monarchy@earthlink.net>
Subject: 18B Dac/Pre
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:49:25 -0700
Dear Mr. Poon,
I'm impressed that you answered me - thank you very much. I checked
and the piggyback upgrade is indeed there.
It was very exciting to finally hear the words to songs thanks to your
DAC - it is attached to the cheap 50+1 Sony jukebox. Right now it's
running
through two preamps (cheap Sherwood AV receiver and vintage Sansui
integrated)
most of the time. When noone is around, I just go straight to the
Sansui.
I CAN'T WAIT TILL MY MONOBLOCKS ARRIVE AND I CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THEM! I
assume it is only then that I will really benefit from all the 18B has
to offer.
Feel free to extract any remarks from the following which I posted
on Harmonic Discord's digital forum after the first day listening with
the 18B (the reference to the "6.9" below is a nOrh speaker which I
really
like). I think it's borderline criminal the quality system I will have
for <2000 when the monoblocks get here - you and the nOrh founder
have
similar ideas about audio value and I wish you both the very best.
You're
both bringing high quality sound at an affordable price.
It's good! It's good! I can hear the words now icon_smile.gif
Climbing out of the primordial audio soup is really fun.
When I got my SM 6.9, I experienced imaging, clear highs, tight bass,
and head some new sounds in the music (like Steven Tyler saying "hoot
hoot"
during Rag Doll - stuff like that which I'm sure everyone with a decent
system is used to hearing). This with a Sherwood receiver.
Kind of tizzy sounding on (Sony jukebox) CD though with empty gaps
between the instruments - holes in the soundstage I guess, so I got the
Monarchy DAC. Didn't know what to expect.
The tizziness is gone, soundstage is filled up, and I can hear lyrics
suddenly. Ballad of John and Yoko = "the way things are going" not "the
way that you're going". Tiny Dancer = "You had a busy day today", not
"you
had a better day today". (and by the way, if I'm in fact wrong about
these
lyrics, I don't care. They sound a lot clearer anyway.)
Like a baby learning his first words.
Wonder what LeAmp will add to the mix? Hopefully it will let me play
louder and keep the clarity? It will cut a pre-amp out of the mix which
I guess should help in some way too?
Anyway, I don't know if the Monarchy is "good" or not. I know it blows
my mind after using the DAC in the Sony jukebox or the Sherwood. Both
of
those suck. So it was a good $228 upgrade for sure! Even if the Sony is
a sub-par transport, just upgrading the DAC brought me a LONG LONG
way.
Just thought I'd share... it worked out.
btw: I haven't opened it up, but I'm pretty sure the volume is passive
- but there look to be hella power supplies in there. It's heavier than
the Sony with 50 CDs in it.
From: HighSpeed1@aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 21:39:34 EDT
To: monarchy@earthlink.net
Dear Mr. Poon,
Thank you for the prompt reply. I will be watching for the release
of the
DIP plus DAC and look forward to installing one in my system. A quick
word
of "kudos" for your products; I have been "into" high end audio for
about 4
years now. Since that time I have owned 5 pairs of speakers, 6 amps,
3 CD
players and one transport, and countless cables. . .the one constant
all this
time has been my Monarchy 18B. One day I'll upgrade to the 22B.
Thanks for a great product!
Best Regards,
Rick
From:
HaraldFeller@cs.com
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:34:23 EDT
Subject: 18B
To: monarchy@earthlink.net (C.C.POON)
X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 35
Dear C.C.POON,
again many thanks for your kindness and help.
The 18B arrived well. Everything works very good. And the sound is
tremendous.
This DAC is a bargain. The 18B makes so much good in quitness, factor
of
time, correctness of reproduction in dynamic and color of
instruments.
I am really sad, Monarchy Audio does not have any distributors in
Germany
or
other european countries around.
Again all best wishes and further on a good hand for you and your
company
Harald Feller
From: HaraldFeller@cs.com
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:16:26 EDT
Subject: 18B/audioreview
To: monarchy@earthlink.net (C.C.POON)
X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 42
Dear C.C.Poon,
as I understand your e-mail you post my lines on this site
audioreview.com.
So let me add to what I wrote in August:
The 18B ( specially with Monarchy's DIP!) is a bargain. It makes so
much
good in
quitness, factor of time, correctness of reproduction in dynamic and
color of
instruments.
I use it in two different audio-systems:
an elderly Kenwood DP1100-SG as CD-Transport
Stax Lambda Pro headphones with
Stax tube-amp
french "Le Tube"-preamp developed by L'Audiophile-Magazine
Bedini cd-clarifier and Blacklight.
TQWT-"Roiene"-full-range-loudspeakers
Uchida 300B-tubeamp (6 watt per channel)
Kaneda preamp.
Classical music (Chesky's Leibowitz-Beethoven or Leonid Kogan's violin
on
EMI) and jazz (ECM) are played with a richness of musicality even much
higher
expensive components cannot do.
A most critical listener said to me after an audio-session with my
system,
those who want more must give good reasons for their wishes.
The Monarchy-combination 18BplusDIP bring peace and harmony into
the
listening-room. Forgotten the test- and audio-magazines. Disappeared
the
restless search for the next "better" component. There is only you
and the
music.
Another comment from Audiotweak:
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Reply-To: "Robert Hart" <rrhart@bellsouth.net>
From: "Robert Hart" <rrhart@bellsouth.net>
To: "C.C.POON" <monarchy@earthlink.net>
Cc: "Alan Eichenbaum" <alanlaw@gate.net>,
"Peter Bizlewicz"
<symposiumusa@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: 18 B vs Bel Canto DAC 1
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:43:58 -0700
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
Hi Poon,
More good news!
I just came back from Andy Bartha (Andy Bartha Audio) he
does
component mods (he's also South Eastern Lowther rep). His name
frequently appears in BFS, and Positive Feedback. He has been
playing
around with the MSB dacs, upgrading board parts and power
supplies.
He also does a great Pioneer 525 /606 DVD player MOD.
He wanted to see inside the 18B. Upon inspection, we
removed the ac
filter (these things suck). Before we put the 18B into his system
,
I replaced a Seismic Sink and several levels of brass cones
with
3 Symposium Shelfs, This was the first time in all the years he's
owned the Lowthers that they exhibited some decent weight.
Frankly, all the great reviews I've read of Lowthers had me
scratching my head because his did not live up to the hype.
His always sounded anemic- almost totally lacking lower mid/upper bass.
Now that we had decent sound, we hooked up the 18B. The
results were
similar to what happened when I replaced the Bel Canto DAC 1.
More body, extremely clean sound stage, which meant greater
depth.
The music was more organic! So even a heavily modified MSB does
not
compare!
Robert Hart
Audio Tweakers
----- Original Message -----
From: C.C.POON
To: Robert Hart
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: 18 B vs Bel Canto DAC 1
At 11:29 PM 6/2/00 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Poon,
Just thought I would update you on our impressions of
your 18B vs the
Bel Canto DAC1. My partner came over to hear it for the first time
tonite.
He confirmed what I heard brand new, right out of the box. This was
really
no contest at all- your 18 B is much better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW! This
comparison was done using my Klyne 7.3 LXBP ($5600 preamp). Next, we
hooked
the 18B direct ( I forgot I had a pair of Monster Y connectors)- the
sound
was cleaner and deeper. As soon as I sell the Klyne, I'll order a
stereo
70. I'll only need one for the 103 dB efficient Avantgarde Duos which
I'll
be getting in about one month. Even the 25 watts will be overkill.
Do you have any DSD/SACD tricks up your sleeve?????????
Thanks for making such a terrific product. Assuming the
amp sounds comparable,
I'ld like to talk about carrying the line.
Robert Hart
Audio Tweakers, Inc.
Here's our website www.audiotweakers.com
Audio DAC M22C
Consumer
reviews from:
http://www.audioreview.com/reviews/DAC/product_4488.shtml
Average
Rating:
5.00/5
Number of Reviews: 3
Ed, an Audiophile
Date Reviewed: 10/7/99
Review Summary:
This is a review for the 22B with Stan Warren's modification.Monarchy
has so many DACs,
it's easy to get confused. The following DACs
belong to the same family. They all use the BurrBrown PCM63P
22A: older generation, NOT upgradable to the rest of the family
22B: super fine DAC
22B limited edition: 22B + Jennifer Crook modification
22C: 22B + line amp + piggy back BurrBrown DAC
33: 22B + Monarchy 10A line amp
I am not using any audiophile words and phrases, here is
what I convey.
I upgraded from the Cambridge Dac, which itself is a pretty good
bargain.
While not expecting a huge improvement, I was stunned. It was like
moving
from a box speaker to a Maggie. It's day and night. no
exaggeration,
no nonsense here. The very first thing I noticed was the
smoooooooothness
of a female lieder played thru the system. I could not believe my
ears.
Then it was the ability to pick up all the low-level noise I never
heard.
Another layer was added to the soundstage, now vocalists and solo
instruments were closer to me. The bass was also improved.
Cambridge transport
Monarchy 22B
EVS Nude Attenuator
Monarchy se100 delux
Celestion SL700
When time allows, I'll experiment with the piggyback
DACs.
Thanks Monarchy!
Overall Rating: *****
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Submitted by: Keith , an Audiophile
Date Reviewed: 6/17/99
Review Summary:
The best DAC I have ever heard for under 3k.
I agree with the previous review.
This unit is very difficult to find used... there is a
good reason for
this.
Also, Monarchy has been designing DACs for many years,
only recently
have they delved
into Amplifiers. I think this DAC is relatively better than any
amplifier
they make.
This DAC mates quite well with outstanding passive
preamps (i.e. Referenceline
2A) due to
the extremely high output of the DAC.
Overall Rating: *****
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Submitted by: Robert Raville, an Audiophile
Date Reviewed: 3/17/99
Review Summary:
The latest DAC from Monarchy Audio is worth auditioning. The model
M22C with line
amplifier and separate volume control is absolutely stunning in
perforamnce
and musicality.
For the reasonable cost of a high grade DAC with the latest Burr Browm
20 bit processors
with built in class A buffer amplifiers is well worth the elimination
of the separate preamp.
You can run your amplifiers directly off the DAC, tube or solid state
work excellent with this
unit. All the musical detail with excellent sound staging is reproduced
with EASE. The
enjoyment of music can be appreciated all over again. If I could give
this unit a six star
rating I would. Highly recommended, tired of all the audio hype see
the Monarchy line and
enjoy music all over again with reasonable pricing for the working
man or woman.
Overall Rating: *****
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